Tuesday, October 4, 2016

Spiritists VS Ufologists: The Great Debate Rages

Here’s something to ponder: why is there such a huge disparity between the UFO and Occult communities? Both are paranormal happenings because they’re un-explainable as of now. Oh sure each has its own groups who vehemently argue for their truth and validity and yet for some whacked out reason which I’m unable to fathom, neither side can come together.

On one hand you have little green or gray people, depending on which UFO expert you’re listening to. On the other, you have historical treatises claiming angels and demons going far back as ancient Sumer. The biggest hurdles each side has yet to provide is absolute proof of either and well atheists scoff at it all - but then atheists are nothing but egotistical pricks who just enjoy shitting on other people’s beliefs because they’re fed up hearing about them.

Still you have two very large communities who refuse to give an inch and claim their point of view is absolute, steadfast and it works. Let’s start off with Occultism, shall we?

The Occult

The work of the occult is well documented and it goes back to ancient mankind when people first began to stand erect and realized death was imminent. Their first rituals were most likely funerary as there have been burial sites found within caves going back thousands of years. Further, cave paintings from thousands of years in the past show us how ancient man viewed religion, community, myth, magic and other such things.

In historic times, humans began to create detailed histories of the gods & spirits they either worshiped or worked with. Of course we don’t have full details on much from this time period but we have a little bit left. Modern scholars have done a splendid job of piecing together these ancient beliefs and even some of how they may have practiced their beliefs back then. We get some of this from studying modern aborigine cultures who have been as untouched as the world will allow.

In more recent times, the New Age and some Hollywood films as well as a few celebrities have helped certain metaphysical practices and beliefs to re-emerge such as Spiritism, Spiritualism, Kabbala, Possessions & Exorcisms, and so on, all of which have come back into the public’s notice. There are real scholars studying the occult and often you’ll find linguists, anthropologists, archaeologists, sociologists and of course historians of kinds.

Many of these folks claim to study the occult for its intrinsic offerings of history - what people often turned to when times got tough since there were no hospitals, clinics or labs with relatively few physicians who for the most part would do things like rub fresh dog shit in your cataract eye to help you to be able to see. Others however study the occult arts for the hidden knowledge and power it offers to those who seek with a purpose.


While the concept of UFO’s is nothing new to the world, the term itself actually is. It was coined in the mid-20th century as a catch all phrase for anything seen in the sky that could not be recognizable but was still flying thus the “Unidentified” part of the Flying Object. UFO’s have been mentioned in the ancient past in many and various cultures. Some modern scholars have actually visited these cultural settings and looked into them to see what myths have grown up around them.

Since the 1940's, however there has been an inordinate amount of data uncovered concerning UFO’s from sightings and photographs both amateur and professional. Government’s around the world have acknowledged the UFO phenomena is real and yet the USA is the only country leading the fight to claim it is a hoax or bogus. Yet Canada, Britain, France, Germany and many other countries have operations manuals on dealing with crashed UFO sites. If UFO’s are fake, then why bother to put out such a manual?

Educated scholars, often scientists, have delved into the UFO phenomenon at first to try and debunk it only to embrace it as something far more than they first believed. We’re talking highly educated professional scientists here folks, not wannabes sitting in their parent’s basement talking on Skype or IRC.

More recently, there are a growing number of folks who claim to pray to Aliens and UFO’s. Not these folks worship these beings but that they claim the UFO Aliens give them mental commands (not unlike spirits do to Occultists) and sometimes give them advance warning of catastrophes (again not unlike spirits do Occultists). I’ve even heard of some UFO folks, like the late Ted Owens who was capable of summoning UFO phenomena whenever it pleased him. Ted was also said to be able to command the weather and cause lightning strikes when he wanted.

So Why the Disparity?

Ego. Everyone wants to be right about what it is they put their own stock into and these same noodniks want to be able to point the finger at someone else and laugh even though their own pov is absurd to an atheist as is the other side’s. Yet you cannot get most UFOlogists and Occultists together in the same room to hear each other out or discuss anything.

You also have the old “My god’s dick is bigger than your Alien which has no dick” nonsense. Times may change but the dick waving nonsense never does whether it’s a god, angel, demon or alien from Alpha Centauri. It doesn’t matter. Same old, same old. The really humorous thing is neither side is convincing in and of itself because very often you have to go, study and immerse yourself in the phenomenon then work with it until you (hopefully) get a manifestation of the spirit or alien’s presence. Of course some folks are just lucky to either get abducted or summon a spirit on the first try.

So WHY Doesn’t Science Dive Into Either?

This is the BIG question by the atheist community. “IF spirits and aliens actually existed, then WHY doesn’t science spend 100% of its time making contact to learn more?” Well genius, allow me to answer that with a rational, one-word answer: abuse.

If a serious scientific researcher even REMOTELY admits to having an interest in either subject (perish forbid both!) then that scientific researcher’s career and livelihood can be negatively affected for the rest of their life. It’s career suicide to openly admit you have an interest in UFO’s or the Occult. Just ask any scientific researcher today. They’ll get laughed out of the scientific community and lose whatever meager funding they may have. That’s difficult thing to deal with just for your hobby or interest.

Just any scientists who went in search of Atlantis, Big Foot, Ghosts, the Loch Ness Monster, and so on, if you have any interest in any sort of paranormal activity, chances are if it gets out, your career as well as your personal reputation among other scientists is ruined. Why? Because no one will take you seriously since the entire American scientific community has an enormous butt plug up its ass.

For years we were told that Troy was a myth and that the likes of Homer, Herodotus, Virgil and others of their ilk were just pulling our leg. That is UNTIL archaeologists actually FOUND Troy. Then everything changed the snide smirks from history professors stopped and they began to take heed. Troy was lost for thousands of years until it was eventually found. Is it possible Atlantis will be found? Perhaps. Then perhaps it alsreay has been and we just don’t know it was because it was misidentified possibly because the scholars refused to believe it COULD actually be the real Atlantis.

We do know that UFO crash sites exist. Why? Well there have been documented sites all over the world and the military of the countries where these crashes occurred have gone immediately in, cordoned off the area, in fact quarantined it in most cases, done a thorough job of cleanup and left the area stripped of any possible remaining evidence whatsoever. Often we hear, “It was a meteor!” or “A weather balloon!” and when was the last time the military gave two shits about quarantine a 5 mile radius for either a meteor or a weather balloon? Seriously? This is what’s known as a “snow job” folks and you’re too thick headed to know the truth of what’s going on.

UFO’s aren’t some sort of ‘fad’ nonsense. They have been reported being sighted for thousands of years. The issue is every one wants to pooh-pooh the sightings as foolish or nonsense because they didn’t see it. Some today do not believe Osama bin Laden is really dead because no one but a select few actually saw his body supposedly after his death. Others swear Oswald did not act alone and had help from the Grassy Knoll. I don’t know. I’m not into world wide conspiracies myself as it would take far too much commitment and brute force to keep such things quiet.

However I have seen UFO’s in the sky doing things I can’t explain and it wasn’t some helicopter or plane. “Well possibly it’s some new technology the military is working on, Moloch?” Very possibly but where did that sort of technology come from and why is it not being used in regular aircraft? With all of the crashes around the world, WHY is our American government the only ones who consistently refuse to acknowledge UFO’s & aliens exist yet most of the rest of the world does? Why are we the only ones who have aircraft with this sort of technology in the first place and where did it come from? The design, the way it moves and operates is not of this earth.


Paranormal experts are still working to gather proof for both subjects. Many thousands of hours of videos have ghosts and spirit like images on them which many claim is proof of the afterlife or at least ghosts. Others have thousands of hours of UFO’s flying through the air, hovering, zooming out of sight, some even allegedly making crop circles, and so on. Yet there is far too little we know for either subject to make any definitive claims about either. The quest is real and it continues. Keep an open mind.